WEBVTT 1 00:06:11.830 --> 00:06:12.670 Sarah Wolff: Now 2 00:11:29.820 --> 00:11:46.509 Sarah Wolff: she could step on there and then. I was like, where is it? I don't know if I we're gonna walk through where to find the stuff for this session, and just trying like, have it be a pretty casual working session where we're we can kind of go whatever direction you just wanna go in. But let's at least establish. 3 00:11:46.560 --> 00:11:48.560 Sarah Wolff: and what's already up there. And 4 00:11:49.500 --> 00:11:56.340 Sarah Wolff: I was planning on doing some of my own uploading during the session if there's time or this afternoon just uploading some examples of reports. So 5 00:11:56.980 --> 00:12:05.610 Sarah Wolff: that's cool 6 00:12:10.700 --> 00:12:19.310 Sarah Wolff: connecting up there. So then, when we share here 7 00:12:20.150 --> 00:12:21.210 present. 8 00:12:35.190 --> 00:12:48.590 Sarah Wolff: I have tried to like. You know, there's been times when I've been like II would like to know what other like people are doing with this. Can we talk about it at the meeting. It's like, well, there's not time at the meeting this month, but maybe you could post it on education, care share, and I'll post and get more, you know, like it's just 9 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:52.180 Sarah Wolff: it's trying to get. 10 00:13:19.350 --> 00:13:22.489 Sarah Wolff: Are Amy? Yeah, she's Yup 11 00:13:22.490 --> 00:13:35.299 Sarah Wolff: supposed to be able to join us later. She'll be on here as well. And then, once we get the screen up here on to zoom, Sarah's gonna start out with sharing some instructions on how to find stuff that's already there on. Take care! 12 00:13:35.970 --> 00:13:43.519 Sarah Wolff: How about getting on education? How do I do that? 13 00:13:43.650 --> 00:14:03.870 Sarah Wolff: Yup? I had to try if you have a password today I didn't have to reset it. I eventually guess the right way. 14 00:14:33.300 --> 00:14:34.050 Oops 15 00:14:35.130 --> 00:14:38.830 keilj: echo issue. 16 00:14:43.920 --> 00:14:45.070 keilj: Okay. 17 00:14:45.310 --> 00:14:48.080 keilj: this is already recording. Okay. 18 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:51.750 keilj: when I walk through the instructions. 19 00:14:51.970 --> 00:14:56.199 keilj: Sure. So you can see the link 20 00:14:56.380 --> 00:14:59.220 keilj: up top educershare.org 21 00:14:59.270 --> 00:15:05.810 keilj: hopefully, you remember your password. I think II think that my username is like 22 00:15:05.910 --> 00:15:14.139 keilj: my first and last name with the space or whatever, so that might work for for you all. If that's the default, or even put your email. 23 00:15:14.270 --> 00:15:21.410 keilj: Amy should be joining us shortly to help troubleshoot any issues. 24 00:15:21.430 --> 00:15:26.719 keilj: and then, once you're in, it can kind of be a little confusing. 25 00:15:26.940 --> 00:15:29.650 keilj: hmm. 26 00:15:30.020 --> 00:15:40.359 keilj: okay. So there's a a dropdown under where it says, Educate or share in a bar that may be blue or maybe red, depending on 27 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:51.460 keilj: sharing instructions. I can share the actual. That'd be help if we don't have an account, is it? 28 00:15:51.520 --> 00:15:55.429 keilj: Is the email address supposed to be the one, especially with 29 00:15:56.200 --> 00:16:05.719 keilj: The okay. Thank you. Because I don't have an account yet. 30 00:16:07.050 --> 00:16:11.519 keilj: Okay, so yeah, when I walked in this morning, I was like, Sarah, what are we doing? 31 00:16:11.690 --> 00:16:19.610 keilj: I couldn't find where she had upload stuff. So if you look at the screen there, so it's not 32 00:16:20.620 --> 00:16:34.280 keilj: going to group source, right? Okay, so education share that dropdown on the top menu. Go to groups first. 33 00:16:34.390 --> 00:16:37.880 keilj: That's my error. Every time. If I forget that stuff. 34 00:16:38.420 --> 00:16:47.719 keilj: there's a groups on the same. I think that can also work if you click the groups. Yeah. And then you want to go to the educator like community of practice. 35 00:16:49.560 --> 00:16:55.450 keilj: And then the cop resources. So this is where all the stuff that we're talking about today is at. 36 00:16:55.670 --> 00:16:58.200 keilj: There's 4 different 37 00:16:59.920 --> 00:17:02.030 keilj: sections of resources there. 38 00:17:02.110 --> 00:17:10.180 keilj: you can also just scroll down to the most recently added, and see some of the ones that Sarah just added for today, and some of the ones that were 39 00:17:10.260 --> 00:17:12.089 keilj: already there. So 40 00:17:12.790 --> 00:17:29.450 keilj: like this spring, it looks like, Jimmy added. Some stuff in the DC crew with their final reports, email reports. I mean, and this is the kind of stuff that I've been looking for that I didn't realize. So yeah, here, it's like, what are other sites doing? How are they presenting this data to their schools. 41 00:17:29.970 --> 00:17:41.199 keilj: so one of the things we're hoping is that from this meeting, either right now or right after the meeting, people will take this chance to upload their stuff right now to this area of the website and 42 00:17:41.450 --> 00:17:47.849 keilj: also just disseminated the knowledge. This is here because I don't think most of us realize people have already put resources out there. 43 00:17:48.510 --> 00:17:51.660 keilj: And then. 44 00:17:51.690 --> 00:17:58.199 keilj: I guess, do you have any other questions before? Cause like the rest of this for me. I'm interested in hearing like 45 00:17:58.790 --> 00:18:04.350 keilj: how frequently you're like giving deliverables to your program partners. 46 00:18:04.660 --> 00:18:09.100 keilj: How in depth are they? Are they to leadership primarily. Are you meeting with teachers 47 00:18:09.260 --> 00:18:16.230 keilj: like we could spiral this in many different directions, I guess, is saying so. Do you have any other questions about the educational share piece 48 00:18:17.630 --> 00:18:22.729 keilj: that you guys want to think about first. Yeah, I have one. And it just 49 00:18:23.060 --> 00:18:32.740 keilj: specific to confidentiality of these documents. So a lot of the reports are just meant for internal consumption at our site. So what are the agreements around? 50 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:47.870 keilj: What people can do with? That is a great question. That's one of the things I was planning on did for like during the actual numbers on mine. like taking screenshots and blurring stuff. So you couldn't see my individual site stuff. I don't know if other people have been doing that or where. 51 00:18:48.210 --> 00:18:57.979 keilj: like we have our own irb for our study. And II don't know if everybody so everybody have their own separate Irb's, I guess. Or is it? Said some people through Fpgas. 52 00:18:59.300 --> 00:19:06.039 keilj: Okay, so maybe depends on the. But I feel like I'll in general should all be confidential. 53 00:19:06.590 --> 00:19:16.480 keilj: I don't know what these depending on, where you're putting things on educational share. If you're putting it in a closed group versus if you're uploading resources that are 54 00:19:16.510 --> 00:19:26.199 keilj: in the main part of the site, the main part of the site, it's a Clo, I mean, educator is only available to network members and their partners and like 55 00:19:26.930 --> 00:19:28.869 keilj: but that could include 56 00:19:29.090 --> 00:19:49.199 keilj: other educate. Not just put it that way. Okay, just blur. So you can't read the actual 57 00:19:49.940 --> 00:19:52.859 keilj: data itself. But you can see how it's being presented. 58 00:19:55.910 --> 00:19:57.509 keilj: But thank you for asking 59 00:20:05.280 --> 00:20:08.560 keilj: any other questions about using the educational website. 60 00:20:18.230 --> 00:20:20.989 keilj: I'm curious. 61 00:20:23.110 --> 00:20:24.130 keilj: Ouch. 62 00:20:24.350 --> 00:20:25.860 keilj: it's like, how like. 63 00:20:26.130 --> 00:20:35.849 keilj: how many of you guys knew? Look for resources on here or like, do you get the email pings when people add stuff, do you get the email pings? When people post a question to the group 64 00:20:37.280 --> 00:20:58.300 keilj: so been encouraged to use that as a resource before, but nobody since to respond to those things. And so like, it's just, it's not a super intuitive website. I don't find it easy to navigate the site. And I know that's probably probably part of it. Some of it's I'll get the email. I have it set up to ping me and my email will post stuff. But it's like, in the middle of my other stuff. And like, yeah, I'm I'm moving on to this other thing that I'm already working on so 65 00:21:00.140 --> 00:21:04.920 keilj: as kind of a sidebar to this conversation. Do you guys, are you guys aware that 66 00:21:05.940 --> 00:21:20.080 keilj: you can set up a notifications? And what would make it art, so that we are you on education? Are you aware that you can set up notifications, and or do you know how to access resources on it. Are those your free questions? Yeah. And then, like. 67 00:21:20.310 --> 00:21:24.789 keilj: you're already aware of the things. And it's just not happening for you. Then, like, how do we? 68 00:21:25.410 --> 00:21:50.239 keilj: I think I didn't. I mean, I was getting the notifications a while ago. And now, somehow, my email has gotten smart and filtered. The fact that I don't pay attention to them, and I'm sure they're still like going to a a filter thing I did. I hadn't known, like every time we have a meeting. They're like posted on or so I'll upload it to educate. And then in the past I have looked for things like this, and I've been completely overwhelmed with, like, the, it's like the Google search. I get back. I'm like, this is not what I want this nothing. And then I stopped using it. 69 00:21:50.250 --> 00:22:07.819 keilj: So knowing that this group exists is like Ex, like exactly what I needed to know. It's like a filter like this is what I need of this. So I guess if you, if we wanted to set up, notify, I'm sure I can set up notifications for the group then, and knowing, because that's how it's most useful for me is to find resources like 70 00:22:07.820 --> 00:22:22.539 keilj: how other sites are visualizing data, how they might have like thought about that, you know, showing this. So this is really helpful. But I think before, without knowing the group existed, it's just like, I cannot, you know. Yeah, yes. Are you showing the group 71 00:22:23.410 --> 00:22:24.560 who's running 72 00:22:24.690 --> 00:22:26.100 keilj: is that you keel? 73 00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:33.810 keilj: Okay? Okay? So you're showing that Lep community a practice group great. 74 00:22:37.590 --> 00:22:50.050 keilj: very much in agreement. Yeah, I didn't know that group existed, and I would search. I like. I can't find what I need, and I get kings for chats that start 75 00:23:02.790 --> 00:23:06.720 keilj: burden for many tasks. So if it's not easy, we're not doing it. 76 00:23:07.830 --> 00:23:15.729 keilj: Can I ask a question? I don't know, not related to entrepreneurship, but related to reports in general, and I don't know if it's a question comment. I don't know. 77 00:23:16.650 --> 00:23:21.520 keilj: I know in the past, I one network meeting 78 00:23:21.840 --> 00:23:27.230 keilj: there was like support for data, visualization and and graphs, and 79 00:23:27.560 --> 00:23:38.780 keilj: that type of thing, at least for me, I feel like would be very helpful. I'm wondering if any other led's have like graphic design support or kind of like 80 00:23:38.980 --> 00:23:54.520 keilj: data consumption support. Because we don't. And you know, whenever our site asked for things, I am the one that's kind of like playing around with Powerpoint like, and like trying to make things digestible. 81 00:23:54.740 --> 00:23:58.250 keilj: so this is super helpful, seeing how others are doing it. But 82 00:23:58.520 --> 00:24:01.230 keilj: Something 83 00:24:01.260 --> 00:24:04.300 keilj: more organized, I guess, or some sort of 84 00:24:04.500 --> 00:24:29.630 keilj: organized resource would be very helpful an editable one like that, I mean, we still use George's like the file maker stuff he shared with us, but that was like he spent so much time like going back and letting us like figure out how that works. But if somebody had that with canva, I know y'all do a good job with canva, you know. But if it were like uploaded, and also, you know, you wanna respect people's like intellectual property. But if somebody's also like. But please 85 00:24:29.630 --> 00:24:57.940 keilj: edit these, these are linked, this canva. You can right click. And you could put your data in a little bit more of this, like sharing, which I know with like the tableau stuff we talked about. But it could just be even like less data driven, I mean more visualization, and where people are willing to share would be great, like editable. So I think everyone can, and it gets expensive. But can the pro? It's not 86 00:24:58.350 --> 00:25:03.230 keilj: that expensive? I don't think, you know. So if everyone had like that to be 87 00:25:03.760 --> 00:25:04.930 keilj: sharing. 88 00:25:08.100 --> 00:25:15.509 keilj: yeah, I like that idea, in addition to just showing what we're doing that right there for people to use. If you're comfortable sharing 89 00:25:15.570 --> 00:25:18.070 keilj: like you said your intellectual property. 90 00:25:20.470 --> 00:25:23.589 keilj: like I'm also curious about, and I don't know 91 00:25:23.700 --> 00:25:31.249 keilj: just having a conversation here, or finding a way to document and share it here as well. Just like, how frequently are you sharing 92 00:25:31.840 --> 00:25:37.029 keilj: reports of any kind to your sites, and to whom and how? 93 00:25:38.670 --> 00:25:39.920 keilj: I think it's hard to 94 00:25:40.450 --> 00:25:51.459 keilj: put a line to like? Let's not get into the weeds. It's too far deep of how does they perceive it? And what kind of conversation, you know? I don't want to get too in depth, but just a very simple flowchart, just like 95 00:25:51.800 --> 00:26:02.220 keilj: we do this monthly to this group. And yes, they seem to like these reports or no. It goes over their head every time we spend 45 min trying to explain these to them. 96 00:26:02.940 --> 00:26:13.950 keilj: and don't get to a lot of the actual action. We have a lot of that mapped out in an our Rpp plan. It's a table. It's not a flow chart. It's in a table. It says 97 00:26:14.150 --> 00:26:35.289 keilj: these are the data products that we produce on this information for this audience at this point in time. Now, it doesn't say, did they like it or not? But we probably have some sense. Like, you know, we could share anecdotally. Which pieces get? We think it taken visibility. Yeah. 98 00:26:35.600 --> 00:26:44.069 keilj: And yeah, at the table. 99 00:26:44.190 --> 00:26:45.080 Beautiful 100 00:26:45.380 --> 00:26:52.390 keilj: for research assistance, you know. arguments that are initially 6 feature. 101 00:26:55.100 --> 00:27:01.299 keilj: But I do bring a lot of those. 102 00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:39.240 keilj: The 103 00:27:51.650 --> 00:27:53.439 keilj: but he's a whole lot. 104 00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:59.900 keilj: I don't really get. Yeah, I just have to say as you care, or is it. 105 00:28:00.980 --> 00:28:23.070 keilj: we don't have any. It's really just me doing the data collection. And then I took on program manager. So I do the reports now, and so I have once a month share just an excel sheet of red flag report for any assessment, that is, you know, below average to the mentor teachers. 106 00:28:23.130 --> 00:28:24.480 keilj: and then 107 00:28:24.970 --> 00:28:31.319 keilj: in November the teachers have their parent teacher conferences. 108 00:28:31.360 --> 00:28:55.979 keilj: So I hustle to get all the data in before late, right before Thanksgiving, so that they have. We call it an early learning checkup. And it's similar to that like it's up it. There's the teachers have a spreadsheet with them. The number like there now they're used to the the 85 or 100. And what that means average typical above average. 109 00:28:56.110 --> 00:28:59.630 keilj: Now, the parents will get so 110 00:28:59.800 --> 00:29:06.920 keilj: just a description of the assessment what that means. And then to the left of it, it's 111 00:29:07.130 --> 00:29:08.879 keilj: color coded 112 00:29:09.020 --> 00:29:11.179 keilj: typical 113 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:22.319 keilj: Eric, and see, I never liked this. But this is the only way area of need. Typical strength. Yes. 114 00:29:22.530 --> 00:29:23.740 And so 115 00:29:23.800 --> 00:29:28.900 keilj: that's done before Thanksgiving. And then 116 00:29:29.750 --> 00:29:38.809 keilj: I try. Once I upload the fall data, which I'll do when I get back, because I'm pretty much done for the fall data. Then 117 00:29:39.220 --> 00:29:41.109 keilj: I will have the. 118 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:48.280 keilj: I'll have the all that information back to the mentor teachers and teachers as a final 119 00:29:48.670 --> 00:30:04.209 keilj: and the director. Sometimes he wants to see us. Sometimes she doesn't. So it just depends. I just offer it to her. So the reply reports the mentor to the 2 mentor teachers. They really. They like to see that 120 00:30:04.470 --> 00:30:07.429 keilj: class data. When I get that in. 121 00:30:07.790 --> 00:30:14.349 keilj: I do. I once it's in. I do pull it out. I've been asked to 122 00:30:14.910 --> 00:30:17.859 keilj: see cause ours are lower. 123 00:30:17.950 --> 00:30:26.759 keilj: Ours were lower last year, so they wanted to see what the national average was, so I had to go search for that, you know. 124 00:30:27.950 --> 00:30:34.659 keilj: so it's pretty regular. And then if a teacher wants to know specifics or the speech teacher wants to know 125 00:30:35.230 --> 00:30:37.759 keilj: this child. Then I pulled out 126 00:30:38.010 --> 00:30:40.200 keilj: that that assessment 127 00:30:40.360 --> 00:30:52.659 keilj: something that's also counted. 128 00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:27.389 keilj: I'm wondering if there's 129 00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:34.319 keilj: Amy has joined us. So if anyone has educational questions. 130 00:31:34.470 --> 00:31:39.650 keilj: navigation questions like suggestions of what might make things easier. 131 00:31:39.850 --> 00:31:43.829 keilj: and, like you personally more likely to use it. 132 00:31:43.860 --> 00:31:46.420 keilj: I'm sure she'd be happy to. 133 00:31:47.540 --> 00:31:51.929 keilj: So here's our again. I'm in our group. There's 4 little pages. 134 00:31:52.280 --> 00:31:59.390 keilj: That's done by date. Are there like flares? People add to this stuff, or is there like their tags? 135 00:31:59.550 --> 00:32:19.209 keilj: I guess the thing would be if people do continue like, let's say, Wow, it exists, and we're all gonna use it like, maybe how it gets organized within there, you know, to be like this is annual report. This is like for families. This is for like things shared with directors or something, just because 136 00:32:19.260 --> 00:32:29.629 keilj: I could see it also becoming overwhelming. Just thinking looks like on this DC airport. Jimmy did the did put tags on it that says like monthly cop materials. 137 00:32:29.980 --> 00:32:35.459 keilj: and it's a report, and it's foresight. But yeah, if we could, maybe 138 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.210 keilj: and maybe Amy Rude can 139 00:32:38.280 --> 00:32:48.660 keilj: help us figure this out of like, is there a way to have like if you're adding up those to this? So I guess I would just go to this new button. 140 00:32:49.040 --> 00:32:53.130 keilj: So so it tells you, if you're gonna upload a resource. 141 00:32:57.950 --> 00:33:01.780 keilj: you can upload your file, name it, put a description 142 00:33:02.050 --> 00:33:06.089 keilj: and then put tags. But you kind of have to start typing 143 00:33:06.270 --> 00:33:09.879 keilj: to. And so you kind of have to have an idea what the tags are. 144 00:33:10.090 --> 00:33:17.920 keilj: or just start typing different letters and see what comes up so maybe if we could add to this kind of template for uploading. 145 00:33:18.630 --> 00:33:20.950 keilj: we know that we want to have 146 00:33:21.430 --> 00:33:29.469 keilj: this one's for Rp, and it's for staff, this one's for parents and have some categories that we know to choose from. 147 00:33:31.340 --> 00:33:40.089 keilj: So that cause, I mean, that's how I'm picturing. Like, if I'm like, okay. Besides telling me they want us to do more for Staff, you know. Get some stuff out to staff. 148 00:33:40.360 --> 00:33:45.420 keilj: Then I would know to come here and say, like, what resources have people posted that they're sharing with their staff? 149 00:33:45.930 --> 00:33:46.820 keilj: Yeah. 150 00:33:48.520 --> 00:33:53.580 keilj: does that make the most, I mean, does anybody have any other suggestions how to organize this and make it accessible. 151 00:33:54.590 --> 00:33:58.919 keilj: So may I. My! My brain always starts out like trying to like, you know. 152 00:34:00.370 --> 00:34:21.839 keilj: document everything everybody do. But like, then, you have a long document, and nobody ever wants to, you know. Like, if that doesn't end up becoming, it seems like we have these distinct data collection activities, so that one possibility would be to organize it by like parent interview. Parent surveys that serving and then break it out by. Well, this was for parents, for leadership. 153 00:34:21.929 --> 00:34:29.179 keilj: we're talking about data, visual examples or reporting examples. Maybe the audience is like the buckets. 154 00:34:29.560 --> 00:34:42.040 keilj: I know educator doesn't work in like a folder format, and that's often how many so the tags essentially function is kind of like your 155 00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.129 keilj: boulder, or help your search capacity. 156 00:34:52.739 --> 00:35:12.820 keilj: Timeline, that had, like all the things the big things that we collect in that timeline could also, if anybody ever did like a ideas for sharing out, you know like. So here's timeline. If you're collecting decas between this and this and then like, and then here you're doing student, and then share almost like an annotated timeline of where data visualization might get shared back out to 157 00:35:13.330 --> 00:35:14.240 keilj: of 158 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:31.390 keilj: to sites, because sometimes you all clean to at your level, you know, and and it's been out, and I'll be like, Hey, when can I get this? And it'll be like it's been sitting there. And I emailed you like 2 months ago, letting you know that it was there. But like if I have it printed out, and I always know this is kind of essentially within this realm. 159 00:35:32.740 --> 00:35:59.560 keilj: typically request for surveys to go out to sites and things 160 00:36:01.860 --> 00:36:21.380 keilj: cause. It is just also rolling all the time that if you're not like really staying on top of it, or if you happen to like step out of your role for a few months, or somebody, you know, ever takes over your role. I mean, I feel like that would take somebody a full year like people that have been here for like you, just to get the hang of it. But the more you have already kind of set up can be very helpful. 161 00:36:23.970 --> 00:36:31.729 keilj: Yeah, that's a good point. And so beyond just the reports themselves like having a time, because I've been one of the things I've been trying to come up with is 162 00:36:32.100 --> 00:36:43.029 keilj: we use Microsoft teams, and you can have Planner embedded within your team. So I've been to the idea of, like a template planner forever, that you can just like, save this as the template and recycle this 163 00:36:43.090 --> 00:36:45.689 keilj: planner every year that has like in August. 164 00:36:45.790 --> 00:36:48.900 keilj: Here's the task for August. 165 00:36:48.930 --> 00:37:01.579 keilj: so like, if other sites already had something like that about that was based off of the network requirements, and then maybe had some of their individual site stuff that people could edit in or out those types of resources as well beyond just the reports 166 00:37:02.100 --> 00:37:07.820 keilj: dashboard kind of thing. So maybe we have mandatory and like suggested. 167 00:37:16.860 --> 00:37:35.049 keilj: so, Amanda, you're saying rather than folders. We have the tags. Yeah, I mean. So we have the group right? That's one way to like, see less stuff. Go into the Educ community practice group. And then you have those 3 kind of, or I'm sorry there were 4 libraries. 168 00:37:35.350 --> 00:37:46.810 keilj: I think you saw the 4 like headers. Oh, this is the local data collection management 169 00:37:47.210 --> 00:37:53.910 keilj: I just like, don't. I don't know who's on this person like. Wait last. 170 00:37:54.480 --> 00:38:03.019 keilj: I'm not a web designer. Yeah, II can say it's not intuitive. Yeah, it just. It's just not intuitive. And that's something like if we can. 171 00:38:04.080 --> 00:38:23.740 keilj: Okay, but that helps. So we've got these are our 4 libraries. Yup. So if I click on data visualization. Most of the examples you're talking about our data utilization communication of data like sharing data with different audiences at different points in time, different types of data, different points in time with different audiences in 172 00:38:23.950 --> 00:38:28.950 keilj: yeah, kind of different format, so to speak. So it would mostly all fall under there. 173 00:38:29.080 --> 00:38:39.779 keilj: So you would want to make sure that when you you know one you could scroll through here through recent things. But when you upload new, you want to make sure that you 174 00:38:40.450 --> 00:38:43.120 keilj: tag it into that library. 175 00:38:46.120 --> 00:39:05.809 keilj: Yeah, I think some of them maybe, are not assigned. 176 00:39:08.500 --> 00:39:11.919 keilj: Yeah. So II feel like the tags as a hangout that we need. 177 00:39:11.950 --> 00:39:13.279 keilj: like. People 178 00:39:13.740 --> 00:39:17.959 keilj: need guidance on how to tag well and how to find 179 00:39:18.510 --> 00:39:20.030 keilj: what they're looking for. 180 00:39:26.100 --> 00:39:34.769 keilj: And it seems like a lot of the things that we're talking about, like the different measures that we're using. The tags already exist for those. 181 00:39:37.560 --> 00:39:56.500 keilj: I think the key tag is the first time that the tag that's going to put it in that stream underneath the data utilization. Or let me see how I use the right words underneath data, utilization, visualization and communication is actually to tag it. Library data, visualization, util utilization, visualization and communication. 182 00:39:57.330 --> 00:39:59.979 keilj: So that's what'll stick it into this 183 00:40:02.260 --> 00:40:06.750 keilj: stream. I guess running record of 184 00:40:07.150 --> 00:40:08.560 keilj: resources. 185 00:40:08.980 --> 00:40:15.749 keilj: So do you know, maybe this is just an any good question. 186 00:40:15.870 --> 00:40:18.569 keilj: would there be a way in that 187 00:40:19.100 --> 00:40:20.450 keilj: or not 188 00:40:20.500 --> 00:40:29.699 keilj: upload format, you know. Upload your file, give your description, and then, and just a single box for tags. Could we help people out with saying like. 189 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:31.590 keilj: Who's your audience tag. 190 00:40:32.270 --> 00:40:42.889 keilj: And I have kind of multiple for the tag that would. Yeah, I would want people to remember today, who's the audience for this resource? 191 00:40:42.900 --> 00:40:46.920 keilj: What's the data point for this resource. But, Christine. 192 00:40:47.620 --> 00:41:00.350 keilj: it's gonna unless we get the tags right, it's never gonna be organized. Well, but if you just have that single tag box. I don't feel like it's gonna be easy for people to remember all the tags that we want and how we have 193 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:06.950 keilj: what's already what time's already out there, you know, like I feel like that's just a barrier right now to getting it well organized. 194 00:41:07.520 --> 00:41:10.270 keilj: I see a nice drop-down of of tags. 195 00:41:11.210 --> 00:41:17.990 keilj: And I just started a new upload at the bottom where it asks for tags. 196 00:41:18.690 --> 00:41:22.849 keilj: I just up it over there, and I see 197 00:41:24.010 --> 00:41:24.680 oops. 198 00:41:26.310 --> 00:41:40.220 keilj: There's also a little bit up at the top. When you go into upload a resource new there's a little bit of guidance to add your resource to one of the 4 main categories of resource. Use the tagging, Max. So like a new 199 00:41:40.970 --> 00:41:42.740 keilj: and right there. 200 00:41:44.600 --> 00:42:06.680 keilj: resources uploaded here will be available to all members of the educ to add your resource to one of the main 4 categories of resources. Use the matching tag, and there's your like list below. Now to your point. You're going a little bit further and saying, and you're you're suggesting how to tag. You're providing some guidance for how to do the tagging. And you're suggesting. And also you should make sure you tag 201 00:42:06.680 --> 00:42:16.579 keilj: the measures that are included in your data, use example and the audience for your data, use right data, visual report example 202 00:42:16.590 --> 00:42:30.420 keilj: when I want to go. So when I'm having a problem and I'm trying to solve it, I want to be able to go directly to the category of a meeting, and if people aren't tagging it, then, you know, people aren't going to spend the time scrolling through every single resource to hopefully find. 203 00:42:31.580 --> 00:42:45.759 keilj: So you basically want to tag it with the search terms that people are likely to use that is, how do we make it as easy and obvious as possible, for when you're uploading stuff with everything included in your tags 204 00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:50.119 keilj: well, I guess one question was, did you notice that information up above. 205 00:42:50.210 --> 00:42:57.180 keilj: I scroll right past it, and I was like, if there were. 206 00:42:57.240 --> 00:43:07.279 keilj: or like II looking at this dropdown, there's author, Colonel. So that's another tag option which you could 207 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:18.300 keilj: basically convert that style to say, audience, Colon, parents or families. There's, you know, at that cause. I don't see any audience references here. 208 00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:25.060 keilj: But if you text started typing in parent survey, if you started typing in parent or family. 209 00:43:26.790 --> 00:43:27.560 keilj: hmm. 210 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:43.639 Amy Rood (she/her): hi, folks, I can chime in here a little bit. As well. The the what you're seeing in the in the dropdown are just the tags that already exist on a resource. And if there are tags that you want to add. 211 00:43:44.080 --> 00:43:48.640 Amy Rood (she/her): you could type audience, Colon parent here, or something like that. 212 00:43:48.740 --> 00:43:52.939 And it's not gonna come up in the box, but if you just hit enter 213 00:43:52.950 --> 00:44:12.870 Amy Rood (she/her): you'll see italicized, and that just tells you, hey, this is a new tag. There's nothing to prevent you from adding that. And so the more that you guys are sort of tagging things with the tags that are useful to you, that makes sense to you. Over time we'll develop a taxonomy that really fits this group. I think. 214 00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:23.369 Amy Rood (she/her): And so we can also pre populate. If there are things that you all think would be really helpful to have in here as suggestions and sort of have those 215 00:44:23.420 --> 00:44:37.280 Amy Rood (she/her): offered up as people are tagging things. But again, if there's things that that you're using that are important, that you think will be really helpful, for people go ahead and feel free to add those in here, too. 216 00:44:37.390 --> 00:44:49.079 Amy Rood (she/her): And then, periodically, we can just pull a list of all the tags that are in use in here, and kind of figure out like, where do we want to combine some things where we maybe want to revise with these tags are so that 217 00:44:49.460 --> 00:44:56.479 Amy Rood (she/her): we're we're grouping things in ways that are really helpful to the folks that are using it. If that makes sense 218 00:44:59.130 --> 00:45:00.240 keilj: very helpful. 219 00:45:05.390 --> 00:45:17.860 keilj: have one logistical kind of question. I just made an account for the educate share. But it's not letting me sign in. Do I have to? I'll like sign in, and it says like not found so 220 00:45:18.550 --> 00:45:27.199 keilj: wasn't sure. We have to get, approved. Amy. Yes, who who is speaking? Oh, Vanessa! Hi! Amy! Vanessa! 221 00:45:27.430 --> 00:45:36.649 Amy Rood (she/her): Hi! Vanessa! Yes, so it will. It should add you to educate share. But it won't add you to the Lep group. So let me just. I'll hop in and do that real quick. 222 00:45:36.670 --> 00:45:42.570 keilj: Okay, thank you, Amy. I'm having the same issue. My name is Michelle Miller. 223 00:45:44.020 --> 00:45:46.060 Amy Rood (she/her): I'll get you in there, too. No problem. 224 00:45:46.740 --> 00:45:59.080 keilj: thank you. I just signed up, and my last name is Park. 225 00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:01.639 keilj: I don't know if you can hear me. 226 00:46:01.890 --> 00:46:09.010 Amy Rood (she/her): Yes, I see Yarong. I see Vanessa. I see Michelle. Who else? Am I looking for 227 00:46:35.220 --> 00:46:40.999 keilj: basically anybody that's making a request to get in the group right now is right here in this room. 228 00:46:41.600 --> 00:46:43.279 Amy Rood (she/her): Alright. I will 229 00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:54.930 keilj: give me about 3 min, and I will be back. Thank you. Am. Thank you, Amy. 230 00:46:55.190 --> 00:47:03.789 keilj: Pablo. Sessions like we're doing these sessions to get feedback. But you know people have also put it on the phone to try and set the stuff up. 231 00:47:04.380 --> 00:47:09.779 keilj: And we appreciate the work. Also, you know, we also are trying to figure out ways to make it 232 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:16.249 keilj: really usable for people. And you know we don't want to have Amy having put in all this work, and nobody's using it. So 233 00:47:16.470 --> 00:47:33.580 keilj: how can we get people to engage with it? And remember that there is like I thought about. You know, I always hesitate to use the list. Serve because I. Nobody wants to be that person who's just like emailing everybody else, you know. 234 00:47:33.860 --> 00:47:40.969 keilj: and tell people until we get this set up in a way that, like people know it's there, and they have their notification set up to ping them. 235 00:47:41.890 --> 00:47:56.040 keilj: If you're hitting us now, you're like I'm or just after this conversation, if you're if Michelle's uploading all her really awesome resources like once she gets them uploaded, you can send an email to the listener with the link to where you uploaded the resources. So people 236 00:47:56.080 --> 00:48:02.409 keilj: get that kind of quick and easy like. Okay, Michelle said. She just uploaded them. I can click on this link, and I upload. See what she said. 237 00:48:02.780 --> 00:48:38.389 keilj: So maybe you can have like in addition to until we get comfortable with education share using a listserv is that would that help people access it? Or would that just be another email, you know, like, I wouldn't have to go look through these tags trying to figure out these tags. I just know Michelle put it there, cause she'd be linking it. You know we could do to in our led community practice meeting like the housekeeping part, you know, if any like. Did anybody upload anything, you know, or you know, just select. 238 00:48:38.390 --> 00:48:58.670 keilj: And then it's on front of mind. If you have something new to add. Oh, I haven't done that. That's okay. Yeah. Just 1 min to show. That's the group, right? Yeah. A lot of people who haven't found that step. Yeah, I agree. That would be really helpful. A lot of people needing to resell their passwords. 239 00:48:58.670 --> 00:49:22.479 keilj: Oh, yeah. 240 00:49:22.610 --> 00:49:39.730 keilj: after you're comfortable with other things like, yeah, they did say that, Michelle, and letting new people know they need to ask all the names that we're signing up now. Yes, like people probably don't even know to ask, anyway. Sorry 241 00:50:20.160 --> 00:50:44.720 keilj: this idea of templates has has come up, and I wanna figure out kind of what capacity and resources we might have to make that happen. Either at the Edgecare National Coordinating office or somewhere amongst our you know, network like our community of practice here. But one thing, I wondered, is kind of like where to start right. What's the best platform for 242 00:50:45.090 --> 00:50:54.520 keilj: designing templates right? You mentioned canva, I think canva is pretty user friendly, but I know other folks use publisher, and other folks use 243 00:50:55.070 --> 00:51:18.340 keilj: Powerpoint. And all these different types of formats. Was there a format that seems to be most desirable, and maybe this is like a little poll that we could do at our next led meeting, or I can whip it together for tomorrow morning, or something like that. But like, that's the kind of format. And and what's the which audience do we want to start with, or which data source, or some data type or something like that. Do we want to start with? Because. 244 00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:34.530 keilj: you know, we can't, you know, bite off. We can't build the whole thing all at once. But if we start building out of repository of both examples and templates that are like adaptable templates that you can use because each 245 00:51:35.740 --> 00:51:46.820 keilj: we each have our own local purposes and local sites, and we might want to add each of our Rpps might want to add in this good information here, but we could give like the base the base model. 246 00:51:47.220 --> 00:51:50.539 keilj: Then, like I'd love to hear a little bit more about like 247 00:51:50.550 --> 00:51:56.880 keilj: format preferences and odd like priority audiences. 248 00:51:57.060 --> 00:52:01.090 keilj: I find the Staff survey sorry, which is 249 00:52:01.220 --> 00:52:26.550 keilj: overwhelming when presenting that data cause. There's a lot of it, and I know some are optional so, or the parents survey, I would say I'd love to start with the survey. Because I think individual data like trial reports, things like that, classroom data is easier to share. But it gets overwhelming. And people start to get like data fatigue when, like death by Powerpoint going through those slides so almost like a one pager, or like a back and forth. So like a 2 pager of that 250 00:52:26.560 --> 00:52:48.160 keilj: one of the surveys. Yes, and we just like canva, because it seems like Jen sees into canva, too. I mean grad students. They're very familiar with working with canva, and it's for us a pretty economical option can but pro so that's the only reason why we are canva oriented. I thought to say, but 251 00:52:49.650 --> 00:52:56.360 keilj: I would agree with the surveys. I think it's overwhelming. I mean, we usually have like, pick out a couple of questions and 252 00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:58.920 keilj: focus on thosees. It's a lot 253 00:52:59.080 --> 00:53:10.100 keilj: kind of like deciding what to show, or you know. And we were talking about it this morning with the table also like where to show kind of like the question and option distribution, where versus like 254 00:53:10.270 --> 00:53:11.760 keilj: of ours. 255 00:53:11.970 --> 00:53:30.249 keilj: like a score, and like the parent child closeness. you know what I mean. It's kind of like what that score means to a director and to repairing kind of like your average was like, what does that mean. So we tend to do a lot of like individual question breakdown. So 256 00:53:31.090 --> 00:53:43.750 keilj: that's kind of like the questions I ask myself. And then thinking about purpose as well. So sometimes I know we are working with, like 257 00:53:44.200 --> 00:53:59.879 keilj: our marketing communications team, and their aim is to try to help the program recruit more families or recruit more staff into the workforce, and they want to use data points to do for those purposes right? Which might. 258 00:53:59.890 --> 00:54:02.279 keilj: Then you might be pricking some of your 259 00:54:02.330 --> 00:54:19.170 keilj: stand out data that's more celebratory. Whereas, like an internal routine to like, do some Cqi and do some goal setting and figuring out how we want to prioritize. You may go a little bit more into the weeds, and you may want to hone in on your data, but 260 00:54:19.580 --> 00:54:32.550 keilj: data points that don't look as great, either compared to last year, or compared to the other data points, or compared to the other. You know some other benchmark or standard or something like that. So I think that that is an important consideration, too, is like 261 00:54:33.930 --> 00:54:39.460 keilj: the purpose of that that data product, that particular database product. So 262 00:54:39.780 --> 00:54:42.019 keilj: format the audience. 263 00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:54.509 keilj: the purpose. And what pieces of data are you using? So I'm hearing canva, maybe an attractive place to have it live because it's adaptable and re relatively accessible. And 264 00:55:19.630 --> 00:55:30.370 but we were working with some of the educational schools that have parent ambassador programs like parent leader advocacy programs. And we had them create kind of database flyers that were 265 00:55:30.370 --> 00:55:41.050 keilj: basically kind of a progress report. That put together pictures of their activities as well as database information, 266 00:55:41.060 --> 00:55:55.479 keilj: that they were getting about their parent leader outcomes or the accomplishments that that their program had made. So it's really it really is accessible. Because we. I mean, we just like taught. We created a template, and we taught the groups how to use it, and they each made one for their their own site. 267 00:55:56.640 --> 00:56:00.510 keilj: I should share that example on 268 00:56:00.710 --> 00:56:01.710 keilj: that is, it 269 00:56:02.250 --> 00:56:30.420 keilj: templates to be the enemy of creativity, barrier to creativity. So I think there is a space and a need for both, like 270 00:56:30.420 --> 00:56:36.649 keilj: the templates. Let me like do something easy and ready made here, and the like examples where you've 271 00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:58.029 keilj: modified, where you've done your own thing in your own context, for your own audiences and your own purposes. And seeing that and using that as a source of inf inspiration. Even if I'm not like using it as a template, I can still use it as a source of like sparking ideas, something that is unique. And a lot of people are using. Just like. 272 00:56:58.450 --> 00:57:05.330 keilj: if you could show us like, this is the type of stuff you know. that you can do when you're seeing the possibilities which 273 00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:23.060 keilj: I can play around with it, figure it out. 274 00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:24.910 keilj: If 275 00:57:25.100 --> 00:57:32.910 keilj: I mean, there's always limits of time at the cop meetings, and so trying to find a like time constrained way to 276 00:57:32.970 --> 00:57:44.779 keilj: yeah, like. And we have monthly or quarterly at the cop meetings 5 to 10 min to highlight. If we just like we finish fall, child assessments 277 00:57:44.990 --> 00:57:57.140 keilj: go to here and highlight some of the resources that people have shared presenting the child assessment data. It's like timely to that point. They're not getting too strong out. And like all the different options that are uploaded. 278 00:57:57.790 --> 00:58:11.310 keilj: Meaning time to like while people are online together virtually to make them upload their resources or like a show and tell time like a showing up. I mean, like, and it doesn't necessarily have to be people presenting, but they have it just like. 279 00:58:11.330 --> 00:58:14.670 keilj: so just remind me and saying, like, Hey, the updates here 280 00:58:14.750 --> 00:58:23.590 keilj: we noticed these ones for child assessments are on here. These look like their example. Show them on screen 5 min and done kind of just. And people 281 00:58:23.810 --> 00:58:32.689 keilj: again, I'll getting that reminder like, here's some timely resources. Yeah, also share your resources. 282 00:58:33.090 --> 00:58:36.440 keilj: Yeah, I think that sounds great. I think we can build that into our 283 00:58:37.070 --> 00:58:50.829 keilj: cop agenda or the office hour time or something like that, and not maybe not every month. Maybe it's like a quarterly kind of thing. Yeah, you know, times with the data collection period for this. 284 00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:54.720 keilj: Yeah, as observations wrap up. Here's some good examples. 285 00:58:55.040 --> 00:59:20.319 keilj: I think the office hour time would not be good cause nobody stays for that. Well, you could also like, give them a a 5 questions. Take any answer to keep people kind of like concise with it. It could be like what you did use your audience kinda like what you're saying with the tag like, ha! What program did you use? And how long did it? Something like that? And just that way. It keeps people at 286 00:59:20.570 --> 00:59:24.019 keilj: 5 min of questions, you know. And then that's a great idea. 287 00:59:24.630 --> 00:59:41.219 keilj: Yeah, I was kind of thinking about what we were doing with equity work before we shifted into the logic model stuff of like having every site cycle through and present about their equity work, but just like on a much smaller thanksgiving. You get 5 min instead of 30 min to present. 288 00:59:41.820 --> 00:59:47.790 keilj: Here's how I one sample data product or PP data product. 289 00:59:50.310 --> 00:59:52.559 keilj: But that's not if I knew something. 290 00:59:57.710 --> 01:00:05.909 keilj: I'm happy to share one of the things that I uploaded spirit of feedback and example or whatnot. 291 01:00:06.650 --> 01:00:08.689 keilj: Yeah, I think 292 01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:18.820 keilj: you can model for us that we should do it all of our yeah with the one of my, what are my questions, Megan? Oh, who's your audience? What is it? Who's your audience? 293 01:00:18.950 --> 01:00:27.180 keilj: Let's have a program. How long does it take you? 294 01:00:27.270 --> 01:00:31.250 keilj: If you're Gen. Z. We're multiplying at times 3. 295 01:00:33.530 --> 01:00:36.759 keilj: Okay, so just I missed a bit if you had time to work. 296 01:00:36.910 --> 01:00:48.549 keilj: This is a specific to educate Okc data collection and submission timeline which I created in Miro. The audience is a 297 01:00:48.720 --> 01:01:01.580 keilj: mostly the school director, but also like any staff or other managers who are contributing to like collecting this data, because we have a lot of a lot of different people with 298 01:01:01.630 --> 01:01:07.480 keilj: their hands. In completing these things, I created a new room 299 01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:10.509 keilj: which is fun 300 01:01:10.550 --> 01:01:16.580 keilj: for creating, you know, just anything with with shapes, basically, and use it to make flow charts as well. 301 01:01:16.680 --> 01:01:23.860 keilj: okay, I answered over. How long did it take you? How long did it take me 302 01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:29.650 keilj: probably less than an hour using the 303 01:01:29.910 --> 01:01:49.200 keilj: there's a template that has, like the line with all the months listed out. So then I just had to add the box. And and I updated every once in a while. I updated it last week when we tweak and say, Oh, maybe we'd like to do the fall. Parent interviews a little bit earlier in the school year, because it'll work better for the family support team. 304 01:01:49.200 --> 01:02:00.830 keilj: Second, my only follow up question is. How familiar were you with Miro when it took you an hour 305 01:02:00.830 --> 01:02:29.430 keilj: now this time 2 to 3 HI use it all the time I love it. And so it's because I can even get in there. In an hour or 2 I can create a visualization that I need for something, but 306 01:02:29.690 --> 01:02:55.879 keilj: so not pushing Europe, but I love it. Is there a way in mirror to create a copy of this as like? And then this is a template for people to start with, and they can like swap out their logo and add in an additional data point, if they have another tool that they're collecting without writing over worse when we export. It's a Pdf. 307 01:02:55.900 --> 01:03:06.820 keilj: right? Yeah, yeah, I'll have to look into. See if you like, send a copy via, yeah, yeah, cause I'll export it and pop it into a Powerpoint as an image 308 01:03:07.680 --> 01:03:08.790 keilj: of. 309 01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:12.149 keilj: But you can't fill it in. And 310 01:03:13.160 --> 01:03:24.619 keilj: yeah, not without like, just writing over it issues like you get 10 free. I think I don't know. They have. Like all kinds of different plans. We started off with a free version. 311 01:03:26.720 --> 01:03:39.069 keilj: but we also our marketing team has canvas. So I also already sent a thing and said, How much is canva cost? So maybe we cause we pay now from Europe because we have some staff in it, but like that might be some like. 312 01:03:39.220 --> 01:03:41.009 keilj: what's the better way to go. 313 01:03:44.900 --> 01:03:47.100 keilj: Sarah, and I'll keep the free version. 314 01:03:51.230 --> 01:04:05.189 keilj: This. This will be a quick add on, because it's also from Miro. But it's just very basic flow charts for data entry into the Fpg system. And it goes with a more in-depth guide. 315 01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:08.980 keilj: Just so you have kind of the overview. 316 01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:16.940 keilj: What do I do to complete the cap? The classroom characteristics these 4 steps and then screenshots of worker. 317 01:04:18.350 --> 01:04:19.200 Okay. 318 01:04:22.120 --> 01:04:25.599 keilj: you can steal that, too, if I can figure out how to export it. 319 01:04:35.140 --> 01:04:41.469 keilj: There's something you're looking at on your computer, Megan. 320 01:04:42.680 --> 01:04:51.569 keilj: Yeah, where we, with your manual. 321 01:04:52.230 --> 01:04:55.230 keilj: the Educator Manual 322 01:04:56.910 --> 01:05:10.189 keilj: under construction or manual. 323 01:05:10.190 --> 01:05:27.910 keilj: But you all. But you're done with completing the manual. Are you still building, like, you know, like, I mean, it's like a lot of this is in the educational manual, I thought was super helpful on my phone like thing steps to do. Well, we were always trying to update it. Okay, keep it. 324 01:05:28.610 --> 01:05:43.730 keilj: He sees updated. Or this, I couldn't find this. Yeah. 325 01:05:44.090 --> 01:05:54.270 keilj: I like that, too. I find that that helpful if I just thinking so, that stuff reminds me of 326 01:05:55.150 --> 01:05:56.000 keilj: yeah. 327 01:05:56.250 --> 01:06:09.649 keilj: like to share. So please do. 328 01:06:11.740 --> 01:06:16.579 keilj: For example. 329 01:06:16.770 --> 01:06:18.210 keilj: this is the 330 01:06:19.110 --> 01:06:20.290 keilj: orbits. 331 01:06:20.350 --> 01:07:06.810 keilj: all of you guys 332 01:07:06.810 --> 01:07:21.299 keilj: prettier. 333 01:07:21.430 --> 01:07:25.589 keilj: I think you're about to get a lot of emails from people. 334 01:07:25.790 --> 01:07:36.960 keilj: I have a quick question. So when you do mail merge, and if it says like area of need or low average. 335 01:07:37.100 --> 01:07:55.620 keilj: can you get it to do the colors in the mail merge. 336 01:07:55.640 --> 01:07:59.079 keilj: even if it's a different color 337 01:07:59.180 --> 01:08:00.790 keilj: for waste so much 338 01:08:43.100 --> 01:09:10.170 keilj: that the report that you have is all the child assessment data that the Lep team helps support. But I'm guessing it's not the only child assessment. 339 01:09:10.370 --> 01:09:18.239 keilj: Yeah, so it's either packaged with it. But I've I'm wondering if at the front of the report there could be an explanation for, like. 340 01:09:18.540 --> 01:09:37.489 keilj: why this set of assessment data exists, or why it exists, or how it differs other sources of assessment data that they might get from their child's teacher or program. I don't know. I just II like to try to put the educational about like from a parent perspective. I like to put why, you're like 341 01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:40.069 keilj: getting this piece of information 342 01:09:40.100 --> 01:09:53.329 keilj: in into the context of the broader experience and and different sources of information that they may be getting from their child's teacher and family support staff, or whoever they might be, interacting within the program like. 343 01:09:53.430 --> 01:09:55.550 keilj: why is this chunk over here. 344 01:09:55.770 --> 01:10:10.040 keilj: and not necessarily getting it at the same time, or in in some integrated format with the other terms of information, where is this coming? Yeah, where is this coming from? And why is this year? So I like to give like a little bit of a reminder of of that 345 01:10:10.910 --> 01:10:14.200 keilj: like, how's this fit in the overall picture and versus coming? 346 01:10:14.350 --> 01:10:40.050 keilj: And why, yeah, I have a cover sheet. And I did that. We just have the stacks. And I didn't like the idea of a parent sitting. And then maybe they sold another student. So I just that was the main. That's why, you know, it explains exactly what and where it's coming from. Yeah. And we I meet usually with the teachers at least once 347 01:10:40.850 --> 01:11:05.630 keilj: before they get them, you know, and then I come back again to like it before, because we tried to before parent teacher. And so we do like a training, and we show them the assessments. And we do all the things, but it would be nice to. It's like something that I will work on and then upload unless somebody's got a really nice one, like an explanation of. We explain the assessments, but not so much about like this is just a snapshot. This is like all the other things that go along with it. That teacher still like 348 01:11:05.630 --> 01:11:13.669 keilj: get nervous about sometimes it would be nice to have, like that type of one pager to go along with it other than just an explanation of like these are the assessments. This is what 349 01:11:34.350 --> 01:11:44.179 keilj: conversation? What's been writing on the reporter as a covers to that report and reference back. 350 01:11:44.180 --> 01:11:45.320 Okay. 351 01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:49.499 keilj: what are? How 352 01:11:49.530 --> 01:11:52.339 keilj: like your report, for example, with the parents? 353 01:11:53.700 --> 01:12:11.439 keilj: How is that delivered to them in terms of like? Does somebody sit with them from the Lep team, or like a family engagement specialist or mentor teacher to talk them through. Because you have all these. II think it's great that those explanations are there. 354 01:12:11.850 --> 01:12:15.299 keilj: but also knowing that we have such variability in 355 01:12:16.440 --> 01:12:24.859 keilj: parents understanding what those exactly mean. Is there somebody there to talk them through those reports, and then also 356 01:12:25.330 --> 01:12:31.819 keilj: are recommendations given to the parents in talking with them through the especially for the ones who are below 357 01:12:32.270 --> 01:12:34.720 keilj: average. So 358 01:12:37.460 --> 01:12:38.280 special 359 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:03.709 keilj: center pages. 360 01:13:04.200 --> 01:13:30.800 keilj: Everything. However, you're right and don't really understand it or not about what team does and 361 01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:44.409 keilj: what the consent part for and like? Should I consent, and all of that. I think there should be a better job. For us to explain that I don't know how that would work. Every parent kind of difficult. 362 01:13:45.070 --> 01:13:54.699 keilj: Yeah, yeah, that. That's I appreciate your perspective. I'm just wondering. That's something that's on my mind is 363 01:13:54.770 --> 01:14:13.029 keilj: the parents or even the teachers. Because we're right now in our site trying to think about how to deliver some of this information to the teachers, but also thinking about the functionality of the report and what they can take away from it. In terms of okay. I know the child is. This is where they're landing on the bell curve. But then what? 364 01:14:13.140 --> 01:14:33.709 keilj: And then providing structured recommendations, is that something that we do as the Lep team? Is that something that we have? We should be collaborating with our Rpps about in terms of providing structured recommendations. I could tell you what we do in Omaha, and at Winnebago is we meet with the teaching teams 365 01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:47.549 keilj: before they do conferences. So we have all the sheets and a sheet with all the data for all the kids on one sheet, and we look at it all together. So we sit down. Look at it. Do you have any questions about any kids, any scores? Does anything not make sense. 366 01:14:47.550 --> 01:14:55.449 keilj: We look at the individual reports, make sure they're able to understand it, because then they sit down and they don't give the data back. They don't just hand it to the 367 01:14:55.450 --> 01:15:20.130 keilj: the parent. They sit down and go through it like we did with them. They also have data books, so they have an example, and like a little binder, this is what the Ppp looks like. This is what the pls looks like, and so they may not show all the parents that, but they can read it before they go and do a conference, because you only do it twice a year, so I may forget what that means so that's kind of how we do it and 368 01:15:20.210 --> 01:15:27.040 keilj: how they're able to use it a little better and more useful. But we also played around with in in 369 01:15:27.290 --> 01:15:27.960 yeah. 370 01:15:28.270 --> 01:15:47.190 keilj: I mean, we were running up against capacity constraints honestly. To to with with on the teacher end of things. Like being able to get everybody up to speed and comfortable with communicating these particular data that they didn't necessarily collect themselves to families. Right? 371 01:15:47.190 --> 01:15:59.689 keilj: We talk about it with to them and the context of data, dashboards and data dialogues like we, they use dashboards and dialogues looking at all their child data in the classrooms, but we also 372 01:16:00.080 --> 01:16:03.360 keilj: toyed around with or dabbled in 373 01:16:03.530 --> 01:16:16.330 keilj: doing like a like a like a report card pickup night. We didn't call it that. But the equivalent of elementary school report card pickup night that was paired with classroom family activity. Nights. So classrooms would have to hold 374 01:16:16.400 --> 01:16:22.849 keilj: per of their programming was to host like a family night or an opportunity for families. This was 375 01:16:22.860 --> 01:16:26.049 keilj: Pre Covid. So you know, we're figuring out what this looks like 376 01:16:26.310 --> 01:16:49.660 keilj: Post Covid, but like a family activity night, and then we would be on hand for any families like the led team would be on hand for any families that had questions about what was in those reports, or wanted to sit down and and the teaching teams and family support staff that correspond with each classroom would make sure that families knew that we were like. Here's where you can find, you know, to Meander, here's and you can go and ask 377 01:16:49.900 --> 01:17:07.819 keilj: if you have any questions about support. So that was just another way that we kind of staffed that the hand off and the digestion of this that information? I don't know that that totally answers your question, which is like, How do you pair the essentially the results with like any type of suggestions about 378 01:17:08.310 --> 01:17:14.549 keilj: supports to provide teachers for that like. 379 01:17:14.820 --> 01:17:19.949 keilj: And our our program has tried to. They're working on 380 01:17:21.010 --> 01:17:47.870 keilj: their staffs, understanding data data cps because they want their we call mentor coaches. Put them into our teachers. really expecting them to be able to like. We hand off these reports to them, and they were wanting them to be able to take that interpreted and coach their teachers with it without us. I mean, we have 4 sites, and we have 64 classrooms. We just can't. We used to be much more involved in individual teacher classroom meetings that we just can't man all. So 381 01:17:48.400 --> 01:17:50.689 keilj: we also encourage the parents to like 382 01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:55.769 keilj: for the teachers to talk with the parents are not with certain score. That's gonna like cause. 383 01:17:55.820 --> 01:18:12.479 keilj: an issue like an email. The whole thing like, just talk about through the strength is what we're working on. And we also use the anyone else uses that. But it like shows line line by line like concepts like the chat was able to demonstrate this. It doesn't tell the exact question. But I guess the area. 384 01:18:12.480 --> 01:18:37.299 keilj: And so the teachers really like, that's the thing. Okay? But then, like, here's the list.